President
Penner

FG Bike Club - Minutes Archive

May 7, 2003
Update

  • location maps
    • Bergen has done some fine work on preparing maps. Before we decided to go to West Hawk, he modified/customized this Caddy Lake pdf (you need Adobe Acrobat to see this file.)
    • now that we're off to West Hawk, click on this picture to open the full size pdf.
  • shirts
    • I biked from work to Luke's office at lunch today and examined a sample shirt. It was not the exact shirt that we would be ordering, but the material was similar. Perhaps a little less fitted. Here's a link to the shirt Luke had in his office. NFL shirt As you can see, the US price is $34. I'm looking forward to looking like that shirt when I put it on.
    • we need sizes from Altona. Duke, as the Altona rep, can you get this going?

May 6, 2003
Seventh meeting.

Present: Penner, Jaun Eppstein, Bergen, Darryl, Jonny G (a brief showing, but a fine effort indeed to fit the club in after a practise and before a game), Luke (very briefly, by phone, after the meeting was half over. Question of calling a six was raised, but defeated because he actually did call the club and page a member to the front desk.)
Regrets: Unger, Marls, Chris, Altona, off-shore rep, Ontario/AMBS rep

A smaller group (as Jonny could only stay for 45 minutes) which merited a discussion on what number was required for a quorum. It was decided that anyone at the Fox and Hound tuesday evening after 9:30pm was a quorum. Location was once again a major topic of discussion. To the details:

  • location, location, location
    • since discovering that Caddy has no group use area, there has been vigorous debate as to whether the camping should move to West Hawk, which has group use, and a LC nearby. Click here for group use info.
    • an impromtu gathering monday evening (yesterday), with four members of the club led to a majority decision that West Hawk would be best
    • rehashing the main points took this evening's gathering to a similar place.
    • it seems worth the extra hassle of potentially needing to drive to the trailhead, and have less fancy toilets, to ensure that all 12 potential attendees can sit around one fire
    • the location committee had in fact put a $6 virtual deposit on three sites at Caddy. That location has been officially sacked. The new group headquarters at the event will be the group use area at West Hawk. (Until the next time we meet and disagree.)
  • "dog test" @ Jaun Eppsteins has been renamed "dog fest"
    • since we are committed to the Country Meats and Sausages product, it was not correct to call it a test.
    • BYO: B; lawn chair; extra condiments (see next point)
  • dog supper on the event weekend
    • Penner and Darryl have committed to procurring the dogs, buns and basic condiments
    • basic condiments are ketchup, mustard and relish
    • if you have further condiment needs, BYO
  • no hacking off of any arms at Bike Club events
  • club dues
    • while it was determined that a monthly levy was not preferable, we did decide on a few items
    • if you want to be an event attending member, you MUST pay for: dog supper, camping and a shirt. Yes, those three items are required purchases to be part of the event.
  • Luke's phone call
    • as mentioned in the list of those present, Luke called his regrets in halfway through the meeting. At first it was thought that instead of owing a full six, three would do because half the meeting was missed. A spirit of generosity prevailed, and the half missed meeting was pardoned because a good effort was shown in calling the club headquarters and paging a member.
    • shirt sizes are needed immediately so we can order. please email your size in to the central email address listed above if you have not already done so.
    • Luke shared that the long sleeve shirt was incredible, but acknowledged that it was not really feasible because of a doubling of the price.
  • logo on shirt
    • some difficulty may need to be overcome due to the large number of colours in the logo
    • the question of a racing stripe up the front was raised, and heartily endorsed
  • discussion on whether baseball was an acceptable regret
    • no not really. Marls may owe a six...
  • next meeting: Dog Fest at Jaun Eppstein's: 102 Lodge Ave @ 8:30pm, May 20
    • Penner suggested a viewing of X-men 2 for those available next tuesday, the 13th. Towne Cinema. Late show. Interested parties should contact Penner.
  • other info, some not directly discussed at the meeting
    • new members
      • Jeff R is interested in joining us
      • Andy BK, currently living in Ontario, moving to Elkhart, IN this summer to take a position at AMBS. In fact, he suggested he should co-hold the US rep position with Bechtel. Since Bechtel is seemingly incapable of returning email, he will not be the US rep, and the position defaults to Andy. It is always nice to have a rep from the Seminary, just to keep things on the up and up.
      • Welly did respond, and is interested in being the offshore rep. here is an exerpt from his note:
        "You actually need us. You want us. You owe us membership. It's our human right. We're a democracy. We have "development assistance" money you want. China sucks. We started the UN after all. They started SARS....
        Forgive me, I've just had a rather frustrating week going head to head with Taiwan's unique brand of diplomats whilst trying to roll back their bizarre and draconian travel ban on all Canadians. Related to SARS, they tell us. More worried about infectious Canadian English teachers from Vancouver than gamblers visiting from Macau, it seems.
        But back to the bike club. How about this. I'll agree to be your token overseas rep if you agree to convene one meeting a year in Taipei, and/or arrange one bike trip a year along the coastal mountains of Taiwan's east coast or on Orchid Island. That's assuming my colleagues and I succeed in rolling back the travel ban. Deal?! Let me know what decision the board returns with. I suspect our American friend, Mr. Bechtel, shall be somewhat more disdainful of your invitation, not being much of a multilateralist at heart, nor given to frequent international communications....or is he?"

April 29, 2003
Sixth meeting.

Present: Luke (thanks to Marls' cel phone which saved the purchase of a six), Unger, Jaun Eppstein, Chris,Jonny, Bergen, Darryl, Marls, and a special appearance by Trevor D.
Regrets: Penner

After a brief wait, a cel phone call, and eventually Luke's arrival, we were ready to go. Visuals were produced, and the sixth meeting of the Fort Garry Bike Club was underway.

  • report from the location committee
    • the unveiling of the map of the Whiteshell took Club reporting to the next level. (Let's not forget that Bergen was the first vocal "volunteer", so perhaps it was to be expected)
    • research done for the meeting revealed that five campgrounds including Caddy Lake have group areas. Quick consensus that Caddy had to be the place. Afterall, it is but a 10k ride to the trailhead.
    • new info since the meeting: Bergen called the office and the guy said Caddy has no group use area. What now?
  • report from the shirt committee
    • not to be outdone, Luke whips out the shirt brochure (with his customary flair) which is almost equal in area to the Whiteshell map.
    • the product is a t-shirt with descriptors like - under armor; performance top; 100% polycool
    • price around $15 before tax and silkscreening
    • colour - black was chosen (not quite by consensus mind you. blue weighed in as well.)
    • then the discussion of sponsorship/fundraising started up.
      • could we get a company to sponsor the "team" and cover the cost of the shirts? FGB, Security Decorating, Jake Rempel, Snider Orthotic Designs and the Fox and Hound came up as potentials.
      • seems Luke is the most enthusiastic on this topic. most of the rest would rather just pay than ask. in fact, the question was raised as to why a Jake would sponsor us. "shits and giggles" responded Marls.
      • no one seemed opposed to doing a little advertising on their shirt if it meant saving a few bucks, so Luke has been empowered to forge on.
      • although there was a call for a treasurer, there was no definitive response that could actually pin it on anyone.
  • logo for the shirts. here is a potential option
    • how we will deal with the various colours needs to be determined.
  • Luke's bike tune-up has brought a new joy to riding
  • Chris, Unger and Bergen are doing the MCC Bike the Whiteshell ride. http://www.mcc.org/manitoba/
    • they seemed to think that non-participation in this ride should equal sponsorship
  • more input from the Technical Director
    • it doesn't really matter which multi-tool, you should just have one when you're riding alone. (tools will be available at our event.)
    • to reitierate from a previous meeting: everyone should have an extra tube for our ride.
    • lots of water is also important
  • water
    • the MEC version of the Platypus is a good buy and highly recommended. check it out!
    • word is that it can hold 5.5 bottles of beer

 

April 22, 2003
Fifth meeting.

Present:
Regrets: Philly, Bergen, Unger, out-of-towners

Another lovely meeting. Pleasant turn of events with Marls joining us, it would seem, for keeps.
The date discussion reared it's head once again from that dark place, lurking just under the placid surface. It seems this meeting put the ugly beast to rest in a fairly casual manner. Disregard any future comment on the date of the 2003 event.

Other comment:

  • Further to Marls participation.
    • all systems seem to be go. his ride has been repaired by the good folk at Natural Cycle and they even came in under the quoted price. Unheard of. www.naturalcycle.ca/ An A+ has been given by Marls.
  • location committee report
    • tabled until such time as the location committee does the research and comes to the meeting.
    • we will continue to assume Caddy Lake as the location until the location committee comes up with something better
  • Important note on meeting attendence
    • six-pack rule has been adopted. any member who does not send regrets to a meeting owes a six-pack. Out-of-town members are exempt for now. all notices of regret (or general comment) should be emailed to bike_club2003@yahoo.ca as noted in the header. six-packs owed will be tallied in the minutes.
  • speaking of meeting attendence... does anyone recognize this person? .
  • Inviting other members... a couple more names have been mentioned
    • Bechtel as US rep
    • Welly as off-shore rep
  • T-shirt committee - we want a report. word is that Luke is this committee, and again, hope was expressed in the potential to have great shirts, but spirits quickly sagged, when... well... the word 'attendence' was uttered.
  • Date of note: dog trial over the fire at Jaun Eppstein's tuesday, May 20
  • word on Duke - rumoured to be training against the brisk country wind. may have taken a run out to Plum Coulee this last week
  • trails committee - Jonny and Chris
  • word from the Technical Director (TD) - everyone should have a multitool. please check here @ MEC for options. the TD will hopefully make a recommendation from this list at the next meeting.
  • Next meeting: April 29, usual site, usual time
    • Chris' last meeting with us for a few weeks as he is out of town on Bike Club business. inspecting Utah and the Moab Desert for suitability as Bike Club 2004 destination. we will expect a full report.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

April 15, 2003
Fourth meeting. A doozy.

Present: Barg, Bergen, Unger, Chris, Jonny, Jaun Eppstein, Penner

Well, well. Top of the minutes has to be (sorry to those who need chronological order) the debate over the date. A misunderstanding developed and was addressed even before the arrival of Penner, the president. The phrase, "last weekend in May", was not, apparently, an adequate discriptor of the date of our event. Last complete weekend? Or last weekend that falls partly in May? All was eventually settled after it was determined that the President is not available on the latter. This was even clarified without Penner's "green book", (the whereabouts of which is still unclear).

Let it then be known that the dates are as follows: May 23-25. Participate as you are able.

Other details of this very productive meeting:

  • Another go at a potential participation list: All present at this evening's meeting; Luke; Duke; Marls; Jonny S; Philly.
    • Tabled: a discussion on the potential of Marls really stepping up and joining the group. Hope was expressed, but some past history of non-participation dampened the mood..
  • Location, location, location.
    • in a surprise move, displaying a level of forthrightness previously unregistered in the Club, Bergen volunteered to explore location and accomodation options. Yes, volunteered. He is now the location committee, with all rights and priviledges...
    • general consensus was the Whiteshell region with Caddy Lake being mentioned a number of times.
    • concern was evident that we are not separated as a group. overflow or group-use areas would be preferred. a number of sites next to one another would also suffice as long as it isn't at a campground where the parkies are all uptight about larger group gatherings.
    • renting a cabin was also raised as an option. participant numbers would then be more of a factor, but likely manageable.
      • consensus on the fact that Jeffrey Dale would need to find alternate accommodations due to snoring levels that reach dangerous and sleep depriving SPL's
  • Club governance. although we do have a president and a few other significant positions, it seems understood that we are really more of a self-governing collective with a figurehead. (the general public and more importantly, potential sponsors, have been known to misunderstand self-governing collectives.)
  • Provisions -
    • joint Dog feast for Saturday supper. (Penner has offered to drive to Country Meats and Sausage in Blumenort to pick-up the finest European wieners South East MB has to offer.) Click here for an nice anecdotal comment on aforementioned abbatoir (Dog shop), or here for the official corporate site..
    • everything else is Bring Your Own...
  • Other committee appointments: (see April 1 for previous decisions)
    • Rural representative to the executive (wink, wink, nudge, nudge:. collective? what collective?): Duke
    • Out of province rep: Jeffrey Dale
    • Shirts: Luke
    • Tarp Committee: Jonny
      • this position is understood to be limited to making sure we have enough tarps and rope, not design and implementation. That usually requires a minimum number of males, beers, and opinions. A matter of pride really.
  • the Technical Director would like it noted that all members are responsible for their own extra tire tubes. A patch kit and pump will be provided, however.
  • other ideas that did not receive full group approval but seemed supported by some
    • making personal training logs available on the website
    • a pre-trip Club ride
    • making pictures of each member's ride available on the website
  • Next Meeting - April 22, same place, same time.

April 10, 2003
Well, no meeting this week. It's been heard that Luke is doing push-ups to prepare for the upcoming biking adventure.

Here's a couple of yurt links for those who have yet to figure this out. Lack of yurt understanding has hampered fruitful discussion to date. Maybe we can dream about yurts for next time. Or, we could take a collection and buy our own. Really, just type "yurts" into www.google.com. So much to learn, so little time.

Minaki Yurts
Yurts made for purchase.

April 1, 2003
Third meeting of the new year.

Present: Numerous - Honourable mentions to Duke and Bergen
Regrets: Philly, Jonny

  • Unger bought a bike. So he's committed. See pic below these comments.
  • Affirmation of dates for last weekend in May
  • Many new positions discussed, some filled/confirmed, others needing attention:
    • Medical: Penner
    • Technical director: Chris
    • Party whip: Chris
    • Dogs: Unger (boiled, then grilled)
    • Shirts:
    • Liquid refreshment:
      • sponsorship
    • Transportation: Darryl to look into SD van
  • Loose participant list: Chris, Darryl, Unger, Duke, Penner, Luke, Bergen, JonnyG, JonnyS, Juan Eppstein, any others?
  • Next meeting date: Not confirmed. Tuesday, April 8 would be a solid option.

March 25, 2003
Second meeting of the new year.
Current actions:

  • Membership: not really known
  • Chairperson: (as determined at the first meeting) Penner
  • Date determined: Last weekend in May. Friday-Saturday confirmed, some questions about Sunday remained. Phil and Darryl need to be in the city Sunday morning. Both affirmed that this should not impact decisions others in the club would make.
  • Location: Whiteshell
  • Accomodations: Tent
  • Other: Unger needs to buy a bike and call Duke.

 

 

 

 

 

 
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